The Boxscore Geeks Show

Chris Yeh (chrisyeh.com), the ultimate Lakers fan returns to talk, what else? The Lakers!

We talk about how the 2022 Lakers might be in good shape, with an assist from a Jeremy Britton prototype.

We talk about how the 2004 Lakers "woes" are a myth.

We briefly talk about the Warriors and why Ben Simmons would be a steal.

Finally, we catch up on the first few episodes of Ted Lasso season 2, with a shout-out to LassoCon, which Chris helped put together.

Tune in!

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Category:NBA -- posted at: 11:50pm EDT

  • TLDR:
    The NBA Draft and bad decision-making.
  • Oscar Robertson and the NBA's history of labor negotiations.
  • David Berri's time at Forbes.
  • Stephon Marbury is a First-Ballot Hall of Famer!

Welcome to Office Hours with Professor David Berri. A podcast where David Berri stops by to discuss his research and writing and writing on sports. Today Dave hops on to talk about the NBA Draft, in particular, an update to an old study, and why he’s not optimistic about his Detroit Pistons in the 2021 draft. We also talk about Oscar Robertson and his fight for players' rights in the 70s. We review Dave’s time at Forbes, where he wrote almost 100 articles, and why it ended on rocky terms thanks to the NBA. One of my favorite thesis of this is episode is how we discuss Television’s impact on the “analytics movement.” And somehow Dave even manages to end on noting that Stephon Marbury absolutely belongs in the Naismith Hall of Fame first ballot, namely for his time in China!

I want to shout out some of the research mentioned on today’s show:

We discuss the NBA draft, specifically: The fifty-fifth Reading Online Sport Economics Seminar (ROSES) by Dave Berri of the Southern Utah University, presenting “Stereotypes and Hiring Decisions: Lessons from the NBA Draft”, put on by James Reade https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIJFjqYdQFs

 

This is based on research that appeared in Stumbling on Wins from David Berri, Martin Schmidt, and with help from Stephen Walters. Erica Hanserd helped by adding High School Ratings to make the research even more verbose!

We mention the senior paper from Greyson Hulet, a Southern Utah University student. It looks at the age curve by position! A topic I’m sure we’ll revisit in Greyson puts his paper online.

We talk about research from Jason Dana, which I first heard on Dan Ariely’s “Arming the Donkeys” podcast. The paper I believe they discuss is “Belief in the unstructured interview: The persistence of an illusion”

We specifically talk about Dave’s paper: Oscar Robertson, Antitrust, and the Fight Against Monopsony Power in the NBA

One correct - at one point I say in 53 of Michael Jordan’s playoff games, 44% were above average. Apologies, I meant 44 games, total which is a little over 80%!

Outro Music is Pure Magic by Chris Haugen

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Category:general -- posted at: 1:44am EDT

We're back we talk:

  • The NBA Finals and how Giannis Antetokounmpo's Finals MVP performance ranks, as well as his Chik-fil-A endorsement attempt.
  • A teaser of a talk with Dave Berri and our two cents on the NBA Draft. Namely, if you're worried about how the NBA Draft impacts your team next season, you've already lost.
  • Simone Biles and how athletes playing through injuries is weird and annoyingly applauded, e.g. James Harden this year.
  • The Ben Simmons' trade rumors and why they make no sense (for the 76ers to bite on)
  • Why Brad Beal is a horrible target for the Warriors
  • Why the New Orleans Pelicans won the first major offseason trade in acquiring Jonas Valanciunus.
  • Shoutout to LassoCon 2020!

Enjoy!

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Category:NBA -- posted at: 2:46pm EDT

Dre and Brian talk:

Mark Eaton's case for the Hall of Fame.

We talk a bunch of Celtics drama including:

Danny Ainge leaving

Kyrie Irving commenting on racism and snubbing the Boston logo.

A fake screenshot Tweet that got NBA Twitter.

Of course, we review round 1 of the playoffs. Some highlights: Hawks vs. Knicks - the mini Rockets looked good.

Lakers vs. Suns - Health sucks and Bubble Basketball and Play-In Ball have added a ton of variance.

Nuggets vs. Blazers - Hat tip to Damian Lillard and thanks to Melo! Jazz vs. Grizzlies - Jazz are the favorites, one loss meant nothing. Bucks vs. Heat - Reversion to the mean hit hard.

Clippers vs. Mavericks - Porzingis was a mistake. Doncic is good

Shout outs:

Naomi Osaka for withdrawing from the French Open.

Tedd Lasso and the amazing AI "Practice" homage.

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Category:NBA -- posted at: 4:34pm EDT

We talk:

The Warriors making the playoffs, and how Dre was right!

The MVP race and why it's obviously Jokic

A little NBA Playoffs, we'll talk more after the play-in.

Ben Wallace and Chris Webber are in the Hall of Fame. We go over Dre's article on the subject.

Shout out to Mark Fidrych, one of the most amazing "what if healthy?" players in sports history.

Enjoy!

Direct download: bsg-289.mp3
Category:NBA -- posted at: 3:46pm EDT

Reviewing the economics and rationality behind what NBA teams look for in NBA players using Drew Timme.

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Category:general -- posted at: 10:56pm EDT

Fun precursor. Thanks Robert Vodicka for noticing we had a bug on the 76ers page of the boxscoregeeks.com -- we talk this at the end of the show. Ironically fixing this page was an easy fix but also required a system update which wound up taking down the Boxscore Geeks for two days ... so yeah!

Patrick is back to talk:

Why James Wiseman was hurting the Warriors and how Curry is an MVP. This happened right before Curry torched the Nuggets and had back to back 10+ three pointer games!

We talk the Wolves possibly getting sold and Patrick gives a free Business Course on how to really analyze NBA front office finances.

We talk a silly chess feud that resulted in a fight between Eric Hansen and Hikaru Nakamura - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FcokIxe50A, it is as stupid as it sounds!

Tune in!

Direct download: bsg-288.mp3
Category:NBA -- posted at: 2:41pm EDT

We were lucky to have on a very special guest - @TyWillinganz! Ty's a fellow Wisconsinite who's been blogging about basketball forever. In the old days, he regularly wrote at https://courtsideanalyst.wordpress.com. He stopped after the lockout but is back at https://berribasketballratings.blogspot.com. We specifically had Ty on to discuss his brilliant March Madness strategies. However, we ended up talking more about random basketball topics, mainly due to the suboptimal performance of our respective brackets. Tune in!

Some highlights:

Ty discusses how he breaks down player productivity as a W-L number as opposed to a single aggregate.

We talk how Ty was one of the first bloggers I knew of that attacked defense and noted that it was more of a team/scheme/coach number than something easily tied to a player.

We talk about Ty's precursor to Moreyball - Sh** Shots, or how midrange shots were obviously a horrible plan. Ty also has a metaphor for ideal defense in the NBA - the Avocado Defense (hard on the outside and middle, soft in the middle).

We do talk about some basic March Madness strategy and why Michigan wasn't a bad Darkhorse. Also, Drew Timme looks great and should enter the draft if he knows what's good for him.

We discuss a few NBA trades particularly Jeff Teague to Milwaukee, Drummond to LA, and Aaron Gordon to the Nuggets.

There is also tons of NFL and Football talk scattered throughout the talk as Ty is a giant Packers fan and Brian knows a ton of football. Enjoy!

Direct download: bsg-287.mp3
Category:NBA -- posted at: 2:40am EDT

We talk: 

Steph Curry's Talents being wasted on the Warriors.

Anthony Edwards' bad shooting but "good dunk" and the Nate Duncan online fight.

Draymond Green's Great take on Andre Drummond/James Harden and the double standard for players and front offices in the media.

Kristaps Porzingis being an obvious mistake at the time for the Mavericks.

And why the Nuggets have room for optimism and pessimism.

Direct download: bsg-286.mp3
Category:NBA -- posted at: 1:17am EDT

Broadcasted live on Twitch -- Watch live at https://www.twitch.tv/nerdnumbers 9:30pm EST Monday!

Timestamps of subjects below:

0:40 Anthony Edwards is impressively bad!

7:20 Shaq/Donovan Mitchell feud.

13:15 NBA's commentators are bad for growing the sport.

19:15 Nikola Jokic is MVP and the best passing big ever.

27:24 Dikembe Mutombo swag!

32:20 Clint Capela and the death of the Houston Rockets

39:54 The James Harden / Jarrett Allen trade.

49:36 The WFH BSG 1:04:00 The Wolves horrible #1 Pick history

Shoutouts:

Patrick - Karl Anthony Towns and the unfair year he's had.

Brian - T.D. Williams for their great take on Shaq's bad commenting.

Dre - Andrey Esipenko for defeating Magnus Carlsen in their first match!

Direct download: bsg-285.mp3
Category:NBA -- posted at: 1:36pm EDT

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